oldtimer 5:35 Fri Mar 26
For The Oldies. West Ham V Wolves 1960-61
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There is some footage on YouTube of the game between West Ham v Wolves from 1960. Our team that day was : Rhodes,Bond,Lyall,Malcolm,Brown Moore,Grice,Woosnam,Dunmore,Dick,Musgrove
We won 5-0
Commentator was Ken Wolstenholme.
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ted fenton
6:11 Sat Mar 27
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Here's the stat's for that Charlton game.....
West Ham 0-0 Charlton Athletic
2nd Division 1957-58
Upton Park 30,208
Goals
1 Ernie Gregory
2 John Bond
3 Noel Cantwell
4 Andy Malcolm
5 Ken Brown
6 Malcolm Pyke
7 Mike Grice
8 John Smith
9 Vic Keeble
10 John Dick
11 Malcolm Musgrove
Pos Table as at 05 Apr 1958 Pl WH DH LH FH AH WA DA LA FA AA Pts
1 West Ham United 38 12 7 1 55 24 9 3 6 39 27 52
2 Charlton Athletic 38 14 3 2 58 28 7 4 8 33 34 49
3 Liverpool 38 15 2 1 45 12 5 6 9 28 40 48
4 Blackburn Rovers 37 11 7 1 43 15 7 4 7 35 33 47
5 Fulham 34 11 4 1 43 17 6 6 6 41 30 44
6 Sheffield United 35 11 3 4 33 18 7 5 5 34 26 44
7 Middlesbrough 37 12 3 3 44 22 5 4 10 28 42 41
8 Bristol Rovers 37 12 4 4 51 30 5 2 10 31 41 40
9 Ipswich Town 37 12 4 3 43 25 3 6 9 21 36 40
10 Huddersfield Town 38 8 7 3 26 23 5 7 8 34 41 40
11 Stoke City 37 8 4 7 46 33 9 1 8 25 30 39
12 Leyton Orient 38 13 2 4 51 26 4 3 12 23 46 39
13 Grimsby Town 37 12 2 4 49 26 4 2 13 31 47 36
14 Barnsley 36 10 5 3 38 19 3 5 10 26 42 36
15 Cardiff City 36 9 5 5 41 28 4 3 10 16 37 34
16 Derby County 37 9 3 7 35 36 3 4 11 22 36 31
17 Rotherham United 36 6 3 8 31 35 6 2 11 26 52 29
18 Bristol City 37 7 5 6 27 29 3 4 12 24 50 29
19 Notts County 37 8 2 8 23 26 2 3 14 16 44 25
20 Swansea City 37 6 3 10 37 44 2 5 11 20 50 24
21 Doncaster Rovers 38 7 4 8 32 36 0 6 13 15 45 24
22 Lincoln City 35 3 6 8 23 31 2 3 13 15 45 19
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Last Gasp
5:28 Sat Mar 27
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Walker_(footballer,_born_1913)
Dick Walker. Former captain during and after the war years.
In 1957 he had a testimonial against Sparta Rotterdam.
I came across Dick Walker accidentally, I was working in a psychiatric hospital, same time as Greavsie was there, and one of the nurses said to me, 'he played for West Ham!' Poor man was suffering with alzheimer's. Managed to get some sort of conversation with him and he confirmed he played centre-half. Such a shame.
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ted fenton
5:08 Sat Mar 27
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That 1958 link Leeshere is a great find I could have been at that game as that was the year my Dad started taking me to our games.
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DukeofDevo
4:41 Sat Mar 27
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Some great stuff on YouTube- the more you watch the more comes up, bit spooky
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Leeshere
4:13 Sat Mar 27
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Some even older games from our time in the second division in the 50’s on this channel as well. West Ham v Charlton 1958 link.
https://youtu.be/1nxLObMZI44
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,
4:07 Sat Mar 27
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Every Saturday afternoon the BBC broadcast one football commentary live in those days. It might be that a recording of the match commentary was matched up with some news footage or whatever.
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gph
3:56 Sat Mar 27
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The BBC showed short highlights of matches (initially a maximum of 5 mins) from 1955, according to Wiki.
Perhaps they increased that to ten mins by 1960.
Or someone's got hold of the original tapes from which the highlights were distilled.
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,
3:39 Sat Mar 27
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I was at that game. If I recall properly at that game we were comparing Bobby Moore with Ron Flowers who at that time was the established England left half.
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Any Old Iron
3:12 Sat Mar 27
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I'm puzzled as to where this footage comes from. It is of course Kenny Wolstenholme doing the commentary, but the first MOTD was in '64. So does anyone know where this video originates?
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ted fenton
12:51 Sat Mar 27
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Not many people know this :-)
West Ham winners of the War Time Cup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy_fYUqk-0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeD6Dhq7yIE
And no I wasn't there ;-)
COYI
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62Hammer
1:15 Sat Mar 27
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Some nice football played on a quagmire. Pre-Greenwood, too.
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gph
5:07 Fri Mar 26
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I was hoping to see what Johnny Lyall was like as a player. Don't hink he got mentioned at all in the commentary.
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oldtimer
1:57 Fri Mar 26
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You can also find highlights from the same YouTube channel (the heavy roller) of the West Ham v Man utd FA cup semifinal of 1964.
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ted fenton
1:03 Fri Mar 26
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I was 10
West Ham 5-0 Wolverhampton Wanderers
1st Division 1960-61
Upton Park 22,336
Goals
1 Brian Rhodes
2 John Bond
3 John Lyall
4 Andy Malcolm
5 Ken Brown
6 Bobby Moore 1
7 Mike Grice
8 Phil Woosnam
9 Dave Dunmore 2
10 John Dick 1
11 Malcolm Musgrove 1
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boleyn8420
12:46 Fri Mar 26
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Save you lazy bastards looking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTLzle4fNo8
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Mex Martillo
7:53 Fri Mar 26
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Repeat of that would be nice them...
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